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The real reasons to hate the Pope |
| By RebelSnake
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Published: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:04 pm
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Thursday, September 21, 2006 | Reason : Science of Religion
The real reasons to hate the Pope
by Johann Hari
And it's got nothing to with Islam.
From The Independent (London) 21st September 2006 and www.johannhari.com
Sigmund Freud first identified a phenomenon called “the narcissism of small differences.” He argued you are more likely to hate somebody who is very, very similar to you than somebody who is drastically different. This week, Freud’s principle has been demonstrated with cruelly plodding logic across the world: in the Bavarian lecture where God’s Rottweiller finally slipped his leash, in the bullets fired into a nun’s back in Somalia, and in a gaggle of jihadis rallying outside Westminster Abbey with banners saying “Execute the Pope.”
Both Joseph Ratzinger and the Islamists calling for his decapitation believe they have direct access to an invisible supernatural being called “God”. Both believe this God wills them to make decisions that have led to the horrific deaths of tens of thousands of people. Both believe this God finds secular democratic Europe disgusting, an atheistic bog dominated by a “culture of death.” Both hate feminism and gay rights and sexual freedom. Both believe they are infallible, and that the billions who refuse to follow them are incurring the wrath of the Creator of the Universe. The only real difference is the name they give to this creature, and a few added textual tweaks on either side.
The tragedy is that when there are so many good reasons to hate Joseph Ratzinger, this week’s rioters have chosen one of the few bogus ones. For over a decade now, he has been one of the primary defenders of priests who go to the poorest, most vulnerable people in the world and tell them condoms are the cause of AIDS. In the past year, I have sat in two Catholic churches thousands of miles apart and listened while a Catholic priest told illiterate people with no alternative sources of information that condoms come pre-infected with AIDS and are the reason people die of it. In Bukavu, a crater-city in Congo, and in the slums ringing Caracas, Venezuela, people believed it. They told me they “would not go to Heaven” if they used condoms, and that condoms contain tiny invisible holes through which the virus passes – the advice their priest had doled out.
I did not stumble across a pair of freakish exceptions. A slew of human rights groups have documented how these lethal lies have been orchestrated by the Vatican itself, with Ratzinger humming along in the background. The president of the Vatican’s Pontifical Council for the Family, Cardinal Alfonso Lopez Trujillo, said, “The AIDS virus is roughly 450 times smaller than the spermatozoon. The spermatozoon can easily pass through the ‘net’ that is formed by the condom.” These people have not been sacked by Ratzinger; many have been promoted.
Some defenders of the Catholic Church say that it is wrong to accuse Ratzinger’s Vatican of spreading AIDS because they simply recommend abstinence. How can they be blamed if people disregard their teachings and have unprotected sex? But this ignores a crucial fact. In order to make people more likely to choose abstinence – the only Holy route – these priests are making premarital sex sound deadly as well as sinful. Millions more people hear the message about useless condoms – in El Salvador, the Vatican successfully helped get a warning onto packs of condoms saying they don’t work – than the message about abstinence. In that gap, there are many seroconversions and many AIDS orphans.
There were rumours earlier this year that Ratzinger was poised to say condoms were permissible – within marriage, where one partner is HIV positive. Even if it happens, this overdue flick of sanity would come too late for tens of thousands of innocent people.
But there is a deeper philosophical repugnance to Ratzinger lying beneath these individual decisions. His recent lecture was devoted to the premise that the free pursuit of reason will lead all people to a rational belief in the Christian God described in the Bible. (You know – the God who explicitly supports slavery, commits genocide against the Amelkites, stones prostitutes, and feeds small children to bears). The Christian God is Reason Personified, while the Muslim God is “beyond reason” – hence the fuss. But this intra-superstitious squabble is not the real outrage.
However much he swears it is not, this argument is deeply anti-Enlightenment. The central insight of the Enlightenment is that there are two fundamentally different ways to understand the world. One is divine revelation, where a being contacts you from another realm and discloses some truth. (Another word for this is ‘hallucination’). The second method is reason – observing the world empirically, and drawing conclusions from the things we observe. The ultimate expression of reason is the scientific method. These approaches are fundamentally contrasting, and you cannot simply weld them together with contorted theological trickery.
By claiming that divine revelation leads to reason – indeed, is its central underpinning – Ratzinger is subtly attacking the core principles of the Enlightenment. There is nothing we can observe in the world that leads us rationally to conclude a magical creature created it. But Ratzinger wants to be able to claim the fruits of the Enlightenment, like science, without following its basic principles. Whenever people do try to stretch reason to accord with faith – as he demands – they invariably produce contorted, corrupted unreason like the absurdity of ‘intelligent design theory’ (which should be dubbed Creationism 2.0).
Of course, none of Ratzinger’s lies justify threats of violence against him. For decades now, he has been saying atheists have “no morality” and are “depraved”, and that homosexuality is “an objective disorder” and “evil” – far worse insults than last week’s cagey, quickly-retracted half-slur on Muslims – and it never occurred to us to respond by attacking Catholic children or nuns working with the starving. We mocked the sex advice of an elderly virgin, gave money to aid agencies trying to correct his poisonous lies, and got on with our lives. The cool balm of reason is the way to put down God’s most rabid Rottweiler – not the furious fire of a parallel fundamentalism.
The man raises some very good points. _________________ Carl Sagan:
"I don't want to beLIEve. I want to know." |
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| By Matt
The Voice of Reason and Dissension
Published: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:16 pm
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Catholic priest told illiterate people with no alternative sources of information that condoms come pre-infected with AIDS and are the reason people die of it. In Bukavu, a crater-city in Congo, and in the slums ringing Caracas, Venezuela, people believed it. They told me they “would not go to Heaven” if they used condoms, and that condoms contain tiny invisible holes through which the virus passes – the advice their priest had doled out.
Umm sorry. This sounds like a bunch of bullshit.
This from the same guy who wants heroin handed out to the homeless, self admittedly uses Ex once a week, physically attacks those that write negatively about, and flip flopped about invading Iraq when it was no longer popular.
This guy is about the least credible source there is. _________________ Procrastinate now, don't wait until later. |
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| By BecauseHeLives
Features Reporter
Published: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:41 pm
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Post that on CARM and see the response you'll get with that misinformation.
BTW.. I noticed you haven't been posting there lately.
Again the question must be asked. What are your intentions and goals when you are posting these half truths? Seriously.... _________________ "Has it ever occurred to you that nothing ever occurs to God?" |
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| By BecauseHeLives
Features Reporter
Published: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:49 pm
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BTW... I did not mean for my above question to come across as an attack on you Rebelsnake. It was not. Everyone has a right to their opinion as do you. With that said I will say that I am hesitant to comment on any threads started by you or SFI because I doubt your intentions. That's why I ask.
Peace. |
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| By RebelSnake
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Published: Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:43 pm
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Johann Hari is an award-winning journalist. Since January 2003 he has been a twice-weekly columnist for The Independent, one of Britain's leading newspapers, and a Contributing Editor to Attitude (Britain's main gay magazine). Since 2005 he has also written a weekly 'City Lives' column for the Evening Standard, London's nightly newspaper.
His writing has appeared in the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Le Monde, El Mundo, The Guardian, , The Melbourne Age, the Sydney Morning Herald, South Africa's Star, The Irish Times, Amnesty International's journals and a wide range of other international newspapers and magazines. He has appeared as a commentator on CNN, NBC's Today program, the BBC's , Question Time, Head-to-Head, Dateline: London, Newsnight and the Moral Maze, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation and others.
In 2005, he became the youngest person to ever be nominated for the prestigious Orwell Prize for political writing. He has also been nominated twice for the David Watt Prize, also for political writing. In 2003, he was named 'Young Journalist of the Year' by the Press Gazette awards, which are regarded as the Oscars of British journalism. In 2000, he was named Student Journalist of the Year by the Times of London. He has reported from the United States, the Congo, Iraq, Israel/Palestine, Venezuela, Rwanda, Syria and Peru.
He was born in Glasgow, Scotland in 1979. His father Eduard is a Swiss-German cook now retraining as a bus driver, and his mother Violet is a Scot who works with battered wives. He has lived in London since he was a baby, and is now based in Brick Lane, East London. Educated at King's College, Cambridge, he graduated with a Double First in Social and Political Science in 2001.
His play, 'Going Down in History', was performed at the Garage Theatre, Edinburgh in 2002 to critical acclaim. It was described as "a thoroughly entertaining, rather sexy attempt to put the personal into the political" by Lynn Gardner in the Guardian and as "excellent" by the Telegraph's Charles Spencer, who called Johann "the new David Hare."
His first book, 'God Save the Queen?', was published in 2003. Christopher Hitchens called it 'superb', commenting, "This is the plain proof of the child-sacrifice that stands at the centre of our most sinister institution." Julie Burchill said, "I love this book! It's like eating a whole box of chocolates all in one go." It was described as "brilliant" by Victor-Lewis Smith in the Evening Standard and "excellent" by Janet Street-Porter in the Independent on Sunday.
He has interviewed Tony Blair, Hugo Chavez, George Michael, the Dalai Lama, Simon Peres, Martin McGuiness, Abu Hamza, Chuck Palahniuk and others.
He is on the editorial board of the magazine The Liberal, and he is a patron of the magazine Safer Society, which campaigns for more liberal and rehabilitative law and order policies.
Since he began work as a journalist, Johann has been attacked in print by the Daily Telegraph, John Pilger, Peter Oborne, Private Eye, the Socialist Worker, Cristina Odone, the Spectator, Andrew Neil, Mark Steyn, the British National Party, Medialens, al Muhajaroun and Richard Littlejohn. 'Prince' Turki Al-Faisal, the Saudi Ambassador to Britain, has accused Johann of "waging a private jihad against the House of Saud". (He's right). Johann has been called "a Stalinist" and "beneath contempt" by Noam Chomsky, 'Horrible Hari' by Niall Ferguson, "an uppity little queer" by Bruce Anderson, 'a drug addict' by George Galloway, "fat" by the Dalai Lama and "a cunt" by Busted.
Sounds like you're not the only one criticizing the man, Matt.
BTW BHL, I quit posting on CARM because those people are downright delusional. And there you go with that questioning my intentions crap again. I'm going to lose so much sleep worrying about that,...NOT!! |
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| By BecauseHeLives
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Published: Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:44 pm
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BTW BHL, I quit posting on CARM because those people are downright delusional
They seem that way to you because they give you real in-depth answers to your cust and paste questions. |
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| By RebelSnake
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Published: Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:00 am
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Those people wouldn't know an in-depth answer if it bit 'em. |
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