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Postby shannon » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:46 pm

Some said it could not be done. Others would have coward in fear and given up in submission. I saw this not as a chore but as a challenge. An opportunity to rise to the challenge of parenthood and test what my family was made of! We faced it full force and head on and came out victorious and came home sick. We did the Magic Kingdom in one day, a Griswold style road trip in one weekend and did not kill each other. We actually had some fun.

As every adventurer knows there is always something to learn. The key to planning a trip in this fashion is research! Our family had an even greater obstacle; to satisfy everyone's special needs. Liv is the pessimist and anti-the Disney idea from the get go. Chance has a hard time suspending disbelief and likes rip your brain out roller coasters. Serenity loves the land of make believe and is still scared of the dark. Both of them think patience is waiting for 3 minutes and get tired after walking across the street. And I, their enthusiastic leader: I invented the idea of the "VOMIT comet". I have endured so many motion sick vacations and sprawled out on the bench after thrill ride occasions I am phobic of twisty rides.

First thing's first! Have a plan of action. Get your tickets ahead of time. We got ours from AAA and they were not dated which worked out for us because it rained out 1st day down there. Say at a hotel that has a free breakfast buffet. Woo hoo stuff the kids until they beg for mercy and they won't pester you for at least an hour. Go light. There's no need for huge backpacks and what not. One reasonable travel pack fit our needs just fine and the kids (dressed lightly) tied light jackets around their waist for evening. In the pack I stuffed 1 water bottle, one cell phone/camera, our tickets and fastpasses, wallet and snacks! Yes snacks. Avoid buying food there as long as possible and stock up on crackers and granola bars.

When you get there all the monorail lines will get you to Magic Kingdom so just take the shorter line. Even if you end up on the resort line, if you stay on, the second stop is the Magic Kingdom. The main idea for the day is "do not be a sheep". Sheep will wait in longer lines. Have one person hold the bag and get it searched while everyone else can go through and meet on the other side. Once in, grab a map and schedule and go directly to the Disney train line. In the morning no one even thinks about riding it yet so there's no wait and you can skip all the craziness in Liberty Square. Take the little train ride to Frontier Land and hop off where you can grab your Fast Pass for either Splash Mountain or Big Thunder Railroad. If the lines are not long for one ride it and grab the FP for the other. Head to Fantasy Land and take advantage of all that fun until it's time to head back to Frontier Land. The Mickey's Philharmagic Show was really cool!

If the lines are shorter and you can't yet get another FP do the other Frontier Land amusements. If you can get a FP hoof it to Tomorrow Land and get a fast pass for Space Mountain or the Buzz Lightyear ride. If the time on those is close you can hang around there and visit the Laugh Factory and the people mover and such. If you get some crazy time like we did on Space Mountain head over to Adventure Land and prepare to wait. This is about the time when hoards of people start making it through the park. It's all fun. You just have to go with the flow and make the most of it. Remember if the tired kids start to get whiny; you have snacks! Once you have the key rides out of the way you can slow down a bit and meander making sure everyone gets a turn to choose their favorites. At one point we stood in line for 50 minutes so that Serenity could ride on the Race Track.

Take Advantage of the Fast Pass! They are free with you admission you just have to use your tickets at the ride kiosk. Honestly we lucked out and got through most lines with ease. I felt so bad when we got to basically cut in front of people waiting in 3 hour long lines looking miserable with cranky kids and we'd just scoot in. Think! Don't be a sheep!

Watch the Main Street Electrical Parade from Frontier Land, there is way less of a crowd.

If you choose to eat there, pick an off time to eat. If everyone settles to dinner at five or six, choose 3:30 or 4:00 At the point that everyone gets cranky it's time to take a break. Sit, eat and refuel! That way you can push it through to catch the great parades and awesome fireworks.

Refill your water bottle all day. Drinking fountain= free water. It kind of became a game for the kids to spot one.

Disney does have an App for the phone that keeps you up to date on wait times! Way helpful!

Go during the week. I hear for Magic Kingdom that Thursday and Friday's are best.

There's literally no wait for things like the President's Hall, Carousel of Progress and the Mark Twain Boat. Take advantage of it! It's nice to slip in away from the crowds for a bit. It helps keep the sanity. Liv and I thought how funny it was that we enjoyed what we used to categorize as the "old people" rides. Ahem, what's that say?

When you're waiting in line take advantage of having absolutely nothing to do but spend time together. We started games of truth or dare. Nothing like introducing yourself to strangers or singing at the top of you lungs a good Disney song. Be in the moment. If you're waiting in line for the Jungle Cruise give in to the idea of being an explorer and play it up. Ask your kids silly questions.

When you leave, wow it gets crazy!!! Hold on to each other!!! At one point I carried Ren on my shoulders for fear she was going to be crushed in a stampede. Again, take the "resort line" monorail. The second stop will get you back to the travel center before the "sheep" even get on the "travel center" monorail.

In the end it was CRAZY!!! But it was fun. Liv got her culture hearing foreign languages spoken. Chance got his thrill rides and eventually gave into the magic. Serenity conquered Space Mountain and got her day of fairy tales. I got a full day of experiences with my family. Though there were a few tears (don't ask), the kids left with smiles! We magically got to ride all but 2 rides ( it's okay I wasn't eager to puke anyway). We watched my beloved childhood parade and a spectacular show of fireworks, pixie dust included! We all came together and had a memorable day of family adventure.
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Postby A Person » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:05 pm

My best advice: take someone in a wheelchair. Grand parents will do in a pinch - that was what we did, but there are too many rides old folk aren't interested in.

I wouldn't suggest faking it, but there has to be a business opportunity renting out handicapped kids for the day. Failing that you could break one of your kid's legs
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Postby SouthernFriedInfidel » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:13 pm

Aw... you folks only did the Magic Kingdom? That's too bad. Well, I expect it will still be there in ten years' time when your teenagers want to go back for the full treatment.
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Postby shannon » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:46 am

Unfortunately we were short on time and money so we just stuck with the one park for the 1st time. Though by the time we go back they'll literally be accepting internal organs at the front gate for payment. An arm and a leg for admission is just so old school.
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Postby SouthernFriedInfidel » Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:15 am

Yeah, I know that admission to the park hurts bad for a single day. The cost per day goes down pretty dramatically only when you get multi-day passes over 3 days. The only way I ever considered it a decent value is to compare it, on a basis of entertainment per hour, as compared to going to the movies. You pay 8-10 dollars per person to sit for 2 hours max in a movie. But at a Disney park, if you get in at opening (9AM) and stay till closing (10 PM during the summer, sometimes midnight) you get 13-15 hours of entertainment at most.

Which is exhausting. But at $4/hour, admission of $60 starts to appear not so bad. I know... the differences are vast, but the logic is enough to keep my family going back. And paying $35 a day for a week of fun.
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Postby Liv » Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:45 pm

Best advice I can give.... DON'T GO!

No matter how much the children beg and plead... it always ends in tears.... when you get home and see the balance in your checking account.

I added up the cost of lunch alone.... Figuring in the percentage of time used from our gate admission, combined with the cost of the food. Fish and chips for a family of 4 ran me $70.00

That does not include a lap dance from the waitress either.

WTF?
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Postby SouthernFriedInfidel » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:52 am

A few questions here, Liv:

1) Did your kids have a good time at the Magic Kingdom?
2) Did you take a lot of photos for them to enjoy as they grow up?
3) Did you take my advice and give them money to buy their own tourist crap with? If so, do you think that helped cut down on their demands?

On my first trip to Disney World, our family was at least as poor as you. And we were still paying off the loan on our single-wide mobile home. We stayed in a Ramada Inn room that we got for free because we sat through a timeshare sales pitch (to which we responded as follows: "No thanks, now where's this room you promised us?") We barely had enough money to buy our tickets, and a round of burgers while in the park.

But you know, what? It was a fantasy that fed the child in my wife and me. It was a dream come true for the kid. Yes, we lost a lot of money, but we got a lot in return. To this day, I cherish the time I spent with my family that day, and had a real opportunity to drop the cares of the world at the front gate and just PLAY.

I know everyone is different, and you obviously get your joy in different a manner from me... but at the very least I would hope that if your kids had a good time, that would count for something in your estimation of whether the day was worth the cost.
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Postby Liv » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:27 pm

SouthernFriedInfidel wrote:A few questions here, Liv:

1) Did your kids have a good time at the Magic Kingdom?
2) Did you take a lot of photos for them to enjoy as they grow up?
3) Did you take my advice and give them money to buy their own tourist crap with? If so, do you think that helped cut down on their demands?



Yes, yes, and yes... but they generally don't demand stuff... I'm very lucky in that respect. They're wise with their decisions..... well except for my son's fascination with laser pointers...

SouthernFriedInfidel wrote:That would count for something in your estimation of whether the day was worth the cost.


Which is why we do it. I realize I wouldn't be me if it wasn't for the pick-pocket capitalistic memories of my childhood. (Though tickets were like 34 then.) This was our gift to them, I didn't have to enjoy it... they did... and I think they did. I'm cool with that (sort of) though one must ask at what monetary point is that argument no longer valid? We spent $1500-$2000 for this cheap trip.... Should parents and children be obliged to continue this behavior when its double or triple that? Especially when I could fly them to a European monestary for a week and teach them how to brew and bottle their own beer for half that? Visit a defunct "Disney-esque" amusement park outside of Chernobyl for just a few dollars and a bit of radiation poisoning? Life awaits outside of America's little box, and it's cheaper to live it than for someone to sell it to you in the form of a Disney Movie then resold as an attraction where they purposely exile Famous Amos from br'er rabbit because its politically incorrect.

I'm glad they got it... but it's time to move on... IMHO... Done that, bought the t-shirt... got the speeding ticket....
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Postby SouthernFriedInfidel » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:17 pm

Well good. In that case, I want to interest you in another wild and crazy vacation that I'm sure everyone will enjoy.

Maui. Go in the summer, enjoy the Hawaiian low season, with low rates for B&B's... go to the top of a volcano to enjoy proper winter weather for a few hours and watch the sun rise... best snorkeling I've found in my life so far. Really nice winery. Rain forests and near-desert areas within a half-hour drive of each other. GREAT place to spend a week chillin.'
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Postby Liv » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:14 am

Hawaii will probably happen, since Shan wants to go and she claims the 8mm film from when I was 2 isn't enough of a replacement.

I would have been a bit more excited if the built a theme park to LOST there....
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Postby SouthernFriedInfidel » Wed May 15, 2013 11:27 pm

Saw this on CNN today, Apparently, some writer interviewing rich bastards for one of the "lifestyles of the rich and fanous" has discovered that SOME 1%-ers have developed a way to skip all lines at Disney World. They "rent" a handicapped local to pose as a family member -- just so their little darlings don't have to wait in line with the common folks.

So disgusted right now. Can't write all of my thoughts... :angry-screaming:
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Postby Liv » Thu May 16, 2013 12:12 am

Shan pointed this one out to me earlier. Handicap status has been abused for years by many people. From the fatties on the electronic trollies at the grocer, to teenagers stealing the handi-parking-pass.

But.... who am I to judge. America is the "every-person for him/herself nation".
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Postby SouthernFriedInfidel » Thu May 16, 2013 8:21 am

Here's what makes me think this is a quantum leap in immoral actions. Here, rich people are buying pleasure for their kids... making the handicapped people into a sort of "prostitute." I mean, yeah, I've known that rich people view the non-rich with contempt, and it is to be expected that they would teach their children to live in a world built in that contempt. But to tell their kids, "I got you a ticket that will get you to the front of every line at Disney World, and you'll have to call him 'Uncle Jake'..." That just makes my blood boil.

I mean, I HAD lived with the fantasy that going to any amusement park, that everyone there was on a level playing field, at least for a few hours. Sure, rich people could eat at the better places and buy the high-end stuff in the shops (I know... no such thing exists at Carowinds, but you know what I mean), but I thought at least they wouldn't stoop THIS low.

I guess that in pursuit of what they think is their due in life, NOTHING is "stooping too low."

Bastards.
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Postby Liv » Thu May 16, 2013 1:23 pm

Yes, but a handicap person gets to feel genuinely loved by a rich family for a day, and goes to Disney for free. It's like those charity deals where you donate to Public Television, and get entered in a drawing for a trip to Paris.

...which I too consider morally silly.

You should have saw the look on Shan's face when I told her Charitys' CEOs make beaucoup bucks on their paycheck. She was under the impression it was a volunteer position.

The misuse of public good is the collateral damage from a competitive economic systems such as capitalism.

If you really think about it, most poor people never get to go to Disney, and it's on only the top 30-40% of people (economically) who do. That bugged the crap out of me when I went. I'm thinking to myself, I just spent $75 on some crappy chicken fingers and fries, $400 on tickets, and meanwhile some kid (who likely deserves it more than mine) is out their rationing his can of government subsidized can-goods to calm his hunger.

Life is effed up some times.
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