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The Bible and The Pyramids.

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Postby Liv » Sun May 15, 2011 6:21 pm

Pull out your map of the Middle-east. Yeah, yeah, I know... Americans laugh in the face of geography as do we get laughed at for not knowing it. However, if you manage to actually find Jerusalem, Israel or any of those biblical places on a map, you'll realize as did I- they're darn close to Egypt. Like seriously, from here to Myrtle Beach close. What's more is there are these huge, magnificent, almost supernatural in themselves stone wonders in Egypt called "The Pyramids", (known locally in Christ's time as "Big Stairmaster of Gods"). I mean I can see Canada on a clear day from Toledo, but to my recollection I don't remember anything in the Bible mentioning these rather unusual for modern times- let alone then: pyramids! (Also I'm quite critical at the lack of pictures.) How is that possible? I mean, they were there... and supposedly the Bible was written (mostly) after they were built (or were they?)- So what went wrong? I mean If I'm going to write a story about Paris, the Eiffel Tour is going to be in it. If I'm going to talk about China- you know the Great Wall is going to be mentioned. Did Jesus-time people just assume big stone thingys with writing on the inside of them was the norm? Or is there something else going on here?

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Some people refer to Mount Sinai, or Issiah 19 (not even close) or "capstone" references as proof, but a search of bible with electronic software yields 0 results for the word "pyramid". A book more of a 1000 pages, yet no mention of the crazy cat people before Jesus's time and their neo-architecture styles? It's like having a phone book with no pizza places in it.

    Possible explanations:
    1) Jesus had no time to deal with little pyramids.
    2) The pyramids were lost on the Bible editing phase (cutting room floor.)
    3) Jesus was a time-traveler.
    4) That's in the prequel to the Bible due out in Dec 21, 2012
    5) The stories of the bible originated before the pyramids.
    6) Jesus was more fond of circles.
    7) Casinos were frowned upon by Christianity.
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Postby A Person » Sun May 15, 2011 7:15 pm

None of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World are mentioned in the Bible. Neither are any of the unnamed wonders - such as Stonehenge, the Chinese terracotta warriors.

It's almost as if the Bible was written by peole who were only concerned about things that affected a tribe of nomadic Jews who had the conceited idea that the entire universe was made for them and them alone.
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Postby Liv » Sun May 15, 2011 7:17 pm

Yeah, but the pyramids? Seriously. It should have been on the dust jacket with Jesus riding a dinosaur.
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Postby BecauseHeLives » Sun May 15, 2011 7:18 pm

Coptic Christians. Google it.
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Postby SouthernFriedInfidel » Sun May 15, 2011 7:35 pm

Liv wrote:Yeah, but the pyramids? Seriously. It should have been on the dust jacket with Jesus riding a dinosaur.

The Bible's "history" sections are not what modern people think of as history. They have one purpose: propaganda aimed at showing Jewish people that THEY are the greatest, strongest, richest people in the world. So the wonders they talk about are a temple built for the mightiest of gods (though nowhere near as big as later temples became) and the richest, wisest of kings (though Solomon's fame never seems to have made it past the margins of the Bible).

The pyramids naturally would not be mentioned. Unless the Hebrews managed to outdo them, which was not very likely, considering that their "ultimate temple for God" was far smaller and would be lost in a corner of Angkor Wat. It would have been counterproductive, from the point of view of the writers and priests who oversaw the writing, to mention ANYTHING that made Israel appear inferior in any way.

Think corporate sales brochure. That's what the Bible is, at is base. And not a very good one at that, considering all the self-loathing that went into this reflection of the Jewish psyche.
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Postby A Person » Sun May 15, 2011 8:36 pm

BecauseHeLives wrote:Coptic Christians. Google it.


How about explaining that cryptic coptic comment?

How does the establishment of the Coptic Church in the 5th century explain why the Bible doesn't mention the pyramids?

Non Sequitur. Google it
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Postby SouthernFriedInfidel » Sun May 15, 2011 10:16 pm

A Person wrote:
BecauseHeLives wrote:Coptic Christians. Google it.


How about explaining that cryptic coptic comment?

How does the establishment of the Coptic Church in the 5th century explain why the Bible doesn't mention the pyramids?

I nearly asked that as well. But since the Coptic branch of Christianity could not possibly have had any influence on the Bib;e's contents, I didn't see any reason to bother.
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Postby Liv » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:12 pm

Funny enough, BHL, despite a lack of explanation, me and Shan spent about 6 hours talking to a Coptic Christian on our Egypt Air flight. Very informative, but again, doesn't explain why the Bible is void of any reference to the pyramids.
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Postby BecauseHeLives » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:05 pm

Liv wrote:Funny enough, BHL, despite a lack of explanation, me and Shan spent about 6 hours talking to a Coptic Christian on our Egypt Air flight. Very informative, but again, doesn't explain why the Bible is void of any reference to the pyramids.


I would suspect that there are quite a few history books that omit anything about the pyramids. Perhaps the bible only references those things that God thinks actually matter.
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Postby A Person » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:28 pm

Like David's collection of 200 Philistine foreskins. That's an achievement that makes those pyramids look pathetic.
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Postby SouthernFriedInfidel » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:54 pm

In this case, I tend to think BHL is correct. The Jewish writers were only interested in making the Jews look great, not the far larger and wealthier empires that surrounded and absorbed them. Why would they mention stuff that would make their grandest monuments look like tinker toys by comparison?
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Postby Liv » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:58 pm

I'm more inclined to think #5.

I think the original stories of the Bible... before they were the Bible... were fairy tales that may have even pre-dated the pyramids.
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Postby SouthernFriedInfidel » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:15 pm

Only a few of them. Most were written after the exile in Babylon. You might find a study of the literary analysis of the Old Testament rather interesting from a historical viewpoint. Heck, the analysis of New Testament writings is kind of interesting as well.
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Postby Liv » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:21 pm

I haven't read anything on it, so I may be ignorant, however, I do know many of the stories, like the flood, appear in Egyptian mythology as well.
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Postby Bennu » Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:14 am

There is am 8th possibility:

The term 'pyramids' is not Egyptian. So perhaps another word was used, which may have been translated into English as "house", or some other word.
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