Amanda from North Carolina : Smoking Children

Amanda from North Carolina : Smoking Children

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I show you something fantastic and you find fault.
Published on May 20th, 2008, 3:13 pm
Rift: Greensboro

You know you looked just to see if it was the one you knew, didn't ya? This is absolutely priceless. When I went to school in the 90's most of the middle-schoolers smoked, so it's not that big of a surprise to me.

Amanda and Her Cousin Amy, Valdese, North Carolina, USA, 1990

IN 1990, Peter Howe at Life magazine sent me to North Carolina to photograph a special school for children with problems.

Amanda totally controlled her mother. She constantly gave her orders and proceeded to put on her mother's nail polish and makeup. Amanda smoked openly in front of her. Her 8-year-old cousin Amy was coming over, and she was very excited. All day long, Amanda and her cousin played like children. Every forty-five minutes or so, Amanda would take a break to have a cigarette. Her mother could say nothing; Amanda was the boss.

Just before I left, I looked for Amanda to say good-bye. I found her and Amy in the backyard. They were in a children's inflatable pool. Amanda was taking her regular cigarette break.

VIA

I vote that Liv spearheads a "where are they now?" campaign.

The mother ought to have her ass kicked for allowing this to happen.

Jan 29, 2008:

Spareth the rod, spoil the child.

Amanda is the one that needs a good whoopin'. Or maybe a switching?

Violence is not the antidote to a lack of standards. That just teaches that violence grants authority. She has already learned to dominate her mother, if she learns that violence are the way to gain compliance then she will be uncontrollable as an adult.

A Person wrote:Violence is not the antidote to a lack of standards. That just teaches that violence grants authority.

An awful lot of the world already believes that anyway. Too much of it, IMO.

SouthernFriedInfidel wrote:An awful lot of the world already believes that anyway. Too much of it, IMO.

Hush you! Lest you have the desire to taste the back of my hand again! :twisted:

So how bout it Liv. Time to dig a bit and find out what happened to these kids?

I assume died from lung cancer....

but....

without a last name, it's going to be tough.... Amanda is a fairly common name, as is amy. I doubt her records at this facility are available for public consumption.... but that brings to question, Where the hell is Valdes, NC?
I'll have to google that bad boy when I get home.

Sanjuro wrote:
SouthernFriedInfidel wrote:An awful lot of the world already believes that anyway. Too much of it, IMO.

Hush you! Lest you have the desire to taste the back of my hand again!

Me duly cringes...

So how bout it Liv. Time to dig a bit and find out what happened to these kids?

You really need to see "po white trash"? :cry:

SouthernFriedInfidel wrote:You really need to see "po white trash"?

Maybe. But I think part of me is curious from a sociological level. Did she break the cycle or continue it?

Sanjuro wrote:
SouthernFriedInfidel wrote:You really need to see "po white trash"?

Maybe. But I think part of me is curious from a sociological level. Did she break the cycle or continue it?

My guess is that only self-examining people are going to break destructive cycles.

SouthernFriedInfidel wrote:
Sanjuro wrote:
SouthernFriedInfidel wrote:You really need to see "po white trash"?

Maybe. But I think part of me is curious from a sociological level. Did she break the cycle or continue it?

My guess is that only self-examining people are going to break destructive cycles.

And what makes you think she didn't? True you didn't say it but we've all implied it.

Sanjuro wrote:
SouthernFriedInfidel wrote:
Sanjuro wrote:Maybe. But I think part of me is curious from a sociological level. Did she break the cycle or continue it?

My guess is that only self-examining people are going to break destructive cycles.

And what makes you think she didn't? True you didn't say it but we've all implied it.

I admit it's only a guess. Based on what I've seen in my own life, and the people around me, that's all.

Where does this 8 yr old get the cigarettes? Sometimes it's safe to say "I blame the parents."

Back then you'd just saying "Buying it for my maw" and they'd accept that.

Liv wrote:Back then you'd just saying "Buying it for my maw" and they'd accept that.

Not in MY part of North Carolina, they wouldn't. Even when I was growing up, back in the '70s, I knew kids who were smoking, and they always snuck them from their parents.

I bought a pack when I was 12 (I didn't smoke then but I bought them for someone else)...

I remember my friend Jason (who occasionally posts here) and I going to club Nero over by the coliseum on teen night and me giving him a huge lecture on how God doesn't like that he started smoking.

He probably wasn't much older then 14 then....

SouthernFriedInfidel wrote:You really need to see "po white trash"?

I always thought it was 'powhitethrash', one word.

"When I Lay My Burden Down."

Liv wrote:Back then you'd just saying "Buying it for my maw" and they'd accept that.

Well isn't this an old thread. The photo led me here. What a great pose. Anyway, my Mom used to send me a half mile down the road with a note and cigarette money, for her, not me. That didn't happen for long. I don't remember how many trips I made or why they stopped. Maybe my Dad found out and intervened. Anyway, it wasn't as if I wouldn't be wandering the area anyway. I just bought smokes on these trips. So yes SFI,when you were a child some children could buy smokes.

My son worked at a grocery store part time a couple of years ago. He got a warning ticket from an undercover policeman for selling book matches without asking for ID. Kids can buy a big box of kitchen matches, but a single book of matches counts as 'smoking paraphernalia' and can't be sold. You've got to wonder how bored the police must have been to set up that sting.

A Person wrote:My son worked at a grocery store part time a couple of years ago. He got a warning ticket from an undercover policeman for selling book matches without asking for ID. Kids can buy a big box of kitchen matches, but a single book of matches counts as 'smoking paraphernalia' and can't be sold. You've got to wonder how bored the police must have been to set up that sting.

A friend who worked at a convenience store was caught in an anti- smoking "sting" operation. They used to call those entrapment cases. IIRC, in my state one gets a ticket punishable by a fine for simple possession of marijuana, yet possession of paraphernalia, say a used pipe, can net you up to six months in prison, though it rarely does. Yes I have to wonder about our lawmakers too.

Nfidel wrote:
A Person wrote:My son worked at a grocery store part time a couple of years ago. He got a warning ticket from an undercover policeman for selling book matches without asking for ID. Kids can buy a big box of kitchen matches, but a single book of matches counts as 'smoking paraphernalia' and can't be sold. You've got to wonder how bored the police must have been to set up that sting.

A friend who worked at a convenience store was caught in an anti- smoking "sting" operation. They used to call those entrapment cases. IIRC, in my state one gets a ticket punishable by a fine for simple possession of marijuana,

You do realize that so -called " ticket gets the recipient a ciminal conviction on his or her record, right? And that conviction can keep the recipient from obtaining college loans/aid and make it hard to be hired by many employers?

Does anyone remember those cigarette vending machines? I think most of those vent away by the early 90's. I remember there being one in the enterence of the Golden Corral when I was a kid. (back when they were the old school 70's style steak houses).

C. Alice wrote:
You do realize that so -called " ticket gets the recipient a ciminal conviction on his or her record, right? And that conviction can keep the recipient from obtaining college loans/aid and make it hard to be hired by many employers?

I didn't know this. Does this apply to my 32 year old conviction?
I do have a friend who was asked to leave a UNC school because he admitted to marijuana use on campus.No conviction, just an honest admission. Now after three semesters working on a associate degree at a technical college, he has been told he can't receive his diploma unless UNC transfers his records, which they are refusing to do. He is being told he did not fulfill post- kicked out of school requirements involving drug education classes. I'm not sure I have the complete story, but either way we're alienating some of our best and brightest because of what some consider youthful mistakes and others consider (myself included) and unrealistic and unreasonable prohibition of a minor drug.

Pineview Style wrote:Does anyone remember those cigarette vending machines? I think most of those vent away by the early 90's. I remember there being one in the enterence of the Golden Corral when I was a kid. (back when they were the old school 70's style steak houses).

I'm old enough to remember buying smokes from the vending machine for 25 cent a pack. Cancer was cheap back in my youth.

Some of the old vending machines have been turned into art vending machines. I know there is one located in the Urban Artware Gallery in Winston Salem. Here is a link to the history of the Art O Mat vending machines. Art O Mat