Doctor Who Religion : God doesn't help, because he can't

Doctor Who Religion : God doesn't help, because he can't

by Liv | Published on January 7th, 2009, 8:43 pm | Religion

Ahem.... Minor Geek Alert....

So I'm watching Dr. Who.

You know, Season Finale for season 3. During the flashback The Doctor explains in a flash back to Jack that Rose absorbed all the Tardis juice AKA "The Holy Spirit" and that no Time Lord could absorb it because they would become a God so to speak.

So it got me thinking, did the writers purposely intend to use the show as an explanation of the "Holy Trinity" and that to suggest that perhaps "God" can't appear, can't intervene because "just maybe" he (or she) doesn't have the power to? Perhaps, if we are to accept that there is a God, and indeed, we know there is a "Trinity"... then perhaps God's absence on earth isn't explained so easily away by the lack of modern "miracles" but the lack of his ability to intervene...

Perhaps even God has mortality?

Wow that sounded really dorky...

It's the cold-medicine time again...

You know you're way off with this, right?

No... I'm always the last to get things....

What am I missing?

Liv wrote:No... I'm always the last to get things....

What am I missing?

The "Energy" is the energy of the time vortex.

WhoWiki wrote:It is known that TARDISes have a certain degree of intelligence. As well, a TARDIS will often "mourn" the death of the Time Lord pilot, even going so far as to commit suicide by flying into a sun or simply hurling itself into the Time Vortex. The Doctor says that there "is an elephants graveyard" of TARDISes somewhere at the end of time. (BFA: Omega, The Axis of Insanity) The Doctor is known for talking to and stroking parts of the TARDIS when he operates it, and he once commented that a TARDIS is "more like a person." (DW: The Five Doctors) TARDISes are actually grown rather than constructed.

I don't see how this disenfranchises it from being a metaphorical "holy spirit"?

Furthermore it still stands my original observation even if it's not valid in Doctor Who lore, is a valid question to ask of Christianity. That, if we're to believe like the masses that there is a God, then it's reasonable to believe that perhaps there is a rational reason to answer the skeptics question as to we haven't seen a "God-like" intervention in the last 2000 years.

Liv wrote:I don't see how this disenfranchises it from being a metaphorical "holy spirit"?

Because it has as much to do with 'holy spirit' as KITT in Knight Rider. Do you forget the Doctor Who series was penned by non Christian?

Liv wrote:Furthermore it still stands my original observation even if it's not valid in Doctor Who lore, is a valid question to ask of Christianity. That, if we're to believe like the masses that there is a God, then it's reasonable to believe that perhaps there is a rational reason to answer the skeptics question as to we haven't seen a "God-like" intervention in the last 2000 years.

Not if you are going by what the Christian Bible says. If your perfect powerful God can't intervene, he's quite the impotent one and a liar.

I'm thinking outside the box.... (oh... that's good..)

Er...

Dr Who = Jesus / God depending on...
Tardis = Holy Spirit
Companions = Apostles (Thus the 12 regenerations)

Even the T for Torchwood is a cross

Jack is of course an Angel

Do you forget the Doctor Who series was penned by non Christian?

It's generally the non-believers who love to talk about religion... Look at this site.

The Doctor: She came back. Opened up the heart of the TARDIS and absorbed the Time Vortex itself.
Jack: What does that mean exactly?
The Doctor: No one's ever meant to have that power. If a Time Lord did that he'd become a god—a vengeful god. But she was human. Everything she did was so human. She brought you back to life. But she couldn't control it. She brought you back forever. That is something, I suppose. The final act of the Time War was life.

That would explain the old testament, would it not?

Because it has as much to do with 'holy spirit' as KITT in Knight Rider.

No, no, no... Kitt is the embodiment of Michaels father.... Duh..

J/k.

I dunno Liv. I think you are really grasping at straws here. Any connection can be attached to the God/Jesus story if you look hard enough. Wall-E is much closer to that Christian mythology than Who if you want to draw parallels. Remember too that Who is its own mythology. You might as well be connecting it to Islam. Remember also, there are only a handful of stories in the world, we just keep telling them differently.

Wow! Sanjuro's eyes are bleeding!

Sanjuro wrote:Remember also, there are only a handful of stories in the world, we just keep telling them differently.

I think it's something like 13 plots... I guess I could go look it up... If I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally wanted to...

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My point exactly:

Liv's Article wrote:The second point I want to make is that science fiction, like any text, can be read in ways which the authors didn’t intend the readers to read it. This sounds contentious, but it’s actually a fairly standard thing in modern cultural theory (which you’ll have to take my word for) that divergent or subversive readings of a text are perfectly legitimate2. It’s entirely reasonable for a reader to understand by a text something different from what the author intended to put into it. We all bring our own cultural assumptions to anything we read, and they differ slightly from person to person, so nobody’s going to have exactly the same assumptions as the [author]. And that’s just as true of us, with the Christian cultural assumptions we bring to things we read or watch, as it is of anybody else.

So, you can draw anything you want from it. Personally I think the Doctor is actually representative of a garbage man and the Tardis is his Garbage truck. The Time vortex is obviously the smell that wafts out of the back as it barrels down the road which, naturally, no one person can absorb.

Terry Pratchett, "Doctor Who is God":

The Doctor himself has in recent years been built up into an amalgam of Mother Teresa, Jesus Christ (I laughed my socks off during the Titanic episode when two golden angels lifted the Doctor heavenwards) and Tinkerbell. There is nothing he doesn’t know, and nothing he can’t do. He is now becoming God, given that the position is vacant. Earth is protected, we are told, and not by Torchwood, who are human and therefore not very competent. Perhaps they should start transmitting the programme on Sundays. cite

Sounds like a job for Mythbusters.