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Radical Islam Documentary

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This is a full length documentary on Radical Islam.

A terror that the media seems to ignore or sympathize with. While devoting pages upon pages and hours and hours of news, on Public Scandals, Super Bowl, Shopping, Fashion, T.v Shows and other trivial information.

We must be aware of the threats that are around us and act accordingly.
We can't live in a bubble and pretend the world will take care of itself.

We are responsible for our actions, as humans who are meant to be agents of grace, who have free will.
We must prioritize and put what is most important first.

Truth

For we do not fight a war in the physical sense. We fight a war of ideology's. Truth V.s Lie.

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Agents
1 : one that acts or exerts power
2 a : something that produces or is capable of producing an effect : an active or efficient cause
3 : a means or instrument by which a guiding intelligence achieves a result
4 : one who is authorized to act for or in the place of another: as a : a representative, emissary


Grace
Synonym: Mercy
1 a : unmerited divine assistance given humans for their regeneration or sanctification
2 a : approval, favor b archaic : mercy, pardon c : a special favor : privilege
<each in his place, by right, not grace, shall rule his heritage — Rudyard Kipling>

d : disposition to or an act or instance of kindness, courtesy, or clemency


http://www.merriam-webster.com/
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Why do you hate Islam so much? Allah gave you your prophet Jesus, and formed you in your womb before your mom considered aborting you...
This is our chance to change things, this is our destiny.
December 26th, 2009, 1:15 pm
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Liv wrote:Why do you hate Islam so much?


What makes you think I hate Islam?

Liv wrote:Allah gave you your prophet Jesus,


False. Jesus is not a prophet, he himself claimed to be God.
So either he is telling the truth, or he is a crazy man.

Liv wrote:and formed you in your womb before your mom considered aborting you...


How do you know this?
December 26th, 2009, 2:03 pm
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ecofox wrote:How do you know this?


Because it is written in a alien rock I wear around my neck.
December 26th, 2009, 2:27 pm
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Liv... for the record.... I hate Islam. And anything else that leads people straight to hell.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second,it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
December 26th, 2009, 5:14 pm
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Liv wrote:Because it is written in a alien rock I wear around my neck.


Liv, Do you think I am lying to you?
December 26th, 2009, 5:25 pm
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December 26th, 2009, 5:52 pm
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I wonder if this guy read the Qu'ran.
Sura [3:3] He sent down to you this scripture, truthfully, confirming all previous scriptures, and He sent down the Torah and the Gospel.

Sounds like Muslims are supposed to read the Torah and the Gospel because they are God's Words.

Sura [3:54] They plotted and schemed, but so did Allah, and Allah is the best schemer.

Allah is a great schemer, scary.

Ok, we are going to have to do a bit of study. To answer these questions. But if you want answers then you will stick with it.

Jesus is fully God and fully human.

John 1:14
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.


The Word...

The Word refers to the eternal Son of God who was “in the beginning with God” and who himself is God (John 1:1).

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1

...became...

Became does not mean that he ceased to be God. In becoming man, he did not forsake his divine nature.It means that he became a man by taking on human nature in addition to his divine nature. It is essential to the incarnation—and very helpful throughout all theology—to recognize that divinity and humanity are not mutually exclusive. The Son of God didn’t have to pick between being God and being man. He could be both at the same time. The eternal Word became a man.

...flesh.

Flesh isn’t merely a reference to the human body but the entirety of what makes up a human being—body, mind, emotions, and will.

The Word Became Flesh

So the eternal Son of God, without ceasing to be God, took on a fully human nature. This is the incarnation.

And what a magnificent doctrine and fuel for worship this is! Jesus didn’t just become man because he could. He became a man “for us and for our salvation” (in the words of Athanasius). The Word became flesh to save us from our sin and to free us to marvel at and enjoy the unique union of divinity and humanity in his one spectacular person.


http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/952_adv ... carnation/

Check out the site! I cut bits out and it goes more in-depth then I did.

God is trinity.

Matthew 28:19
19 “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,

How?

The same way you are a female or a male, you just are. Why? Mystery. God knows.

“For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Neither are your ways My ways,” declares the LORD. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts” (Isaiah 55:8-9)

James 1:13 (King James Version)
13Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

Matthew 4:3-4
1Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

(God the Son, lead by the Holy Spirit, the way I see it is that God was not tempted but the flesh, the physical body was.)

2And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.

(God can get hungry? Fully God and Fully man. Why fast?)

3And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.

(God can do miracles. Jesus must have been verry hungry.)

4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

So the devil came to tempt Jesus (God) and failed.

1 Timothy 2:5
5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Good reading.

http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/952_adv ... carnation/
http://bible.org/article/trinity-triunity-god
http://www.carm.org/apologetics/cut-and ... od-trinity
December 26th, 2009, 8:02 pm
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ecofox wrote:Sounds like Muslims are supposed to read the Torah and the Gospel because they are God's Words.


You didn't know that?

I suppose that shouldn't surprise me, given that you didn't know Baptists are Protestants

The Torah is common to all Abrahamic faiths. Muslims consider it God's revelation to Moses, with later versions corrupted by fallible men. Muslims consider Jesus to be a Holy Prophet and Messiah, a messenger from God who was raised directly to Heaven and who will return to Earth in the latter days to defeat the false messiah or Antichrist.

They do of course reject the interpretation that Jesus is God or some sort of Board of Directors.

Hearing you expound on religion is like listening to BHL on climate change.
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December 27th, 2009, 8:51 am
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I don't know where you got that clip from, Liv, it's quite funny and a good analogy about the status of the various scripture. I am not a Muslim and of course Muslims, like Christians, do not all agree on all matters of their faith, however I stand my my statement earlier that Muslims do believe that Isa (Jesus) is the Messiah

10 brief points Christians should know about Jesus and Muslims Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him)
1. Muslims love Prophet Jesus. We also love Prophet Abraham, Prophet Moses, and Prophet Noah, to name just a few other Prophets Muslims revere. May God's peace be upon all of these great messengers of God.
2. Muslims also love the mother of Prophet Jesus, the Virgin Mary. We believe she was a pious and noble woman chosen over all of the women of the world.
3. Muslims believe that Prophet Jesus was born miraculously of a virgin mother and no father. His birth is miraculous like the birth of Prophet Adam, the first human being, who was created with neither mother nor father.
4. Muslims do not believe that Prophet Jesus was the son of God. God is so powerful and self-sufficient that He does not need a son or any kind of partner.
5. In Arabic Bible the name for God is Allah. Therefore all Arab Christian call God Allah as Muslim do as well.
6. Prophet Jesus did not die on the cross. Rather, God saved him as his enemies were confused about him. Prophet Jesus was taken up by God to Heaven.
7. Prophet Jesus is called Isa (pronounced Eesa) in Arabic and the spirit of God (Roohullah) is his title.
8. Prophet Jesus performed miracles by the Will of God, like healing the blind and those with leprosy.
9. Prophet Jesus prayed to the same God as all Prophets and we Muslims pray to.
10. Prophet Jesus will return before the end of the world during the time of Imam al-Mahdi, the embodiment of the Messiah or the saviour.
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Interestingly, I recall reading in the Qur'an that Jesus is a messiah. I say "a" because originally, the term "messiah" meant "one sent to judge and save the Jews." -- as in the Book of Judges. All of the Judges were seen as messiahs, and the Muslims believe that Jesus was a "latter day" messiah as well as a prophet.
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SouthernFriedInfidel wrote:Interestingly, I recall reading in the Qur'an that Jesus is a messiah. I say "a" because originally, the term "messiah" meant "one sent to judge and save the Jews." -- as in the Book of Judges. All of the Judges were seen as messiahs, and the Muslims believe that Jesus was a "latter day" messiah as well as a prophet.


Jesus was God in the flesh. Now you know.
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Moderators, please move this post to the Religion section, as it does not represent discussion of News or Politics, but instead devolves into a discussion as to the veracity of various religious beliefs, as do many of Ecofox's threads. Thank you for your time and attention.
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HOPOMaster wrote:Moderators, please move this post to the Religion section, as it does not represent discussion of News or Politics, but instead devolves into a discussion as to the veracity of various religious beliefs, as do many of Ecofox's threads. Thank you for your time and attention.

Agreed. Thread moved.
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A Person wrote:I don't know where you got that clip from, Liv, it's quite funny and a good analogy about the status of the various scripture. I am not a Muslim and of course Muslims, like Christians, do not all agree on all matters of their faith, however I stand my my statement earlier that Muslims do believe that Isa (Jesus) is the Messiah


If they love him why don't they obey him?

Also the clip was made by a relativist so it has no bearing on reality.
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ecofox wrote:If they love him why don't they obey him?

Why don't you obey the Mosaic Law and the teaching of Moses?
December 28th, 2009, 9:20 pm
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A Person wrote:
ecofox wrote:If they love him why don't they obey him?

Why don't you obey the Mosaic Law and the teaching of Moses?


I've already explained to you in detail why most of the laws and rules in the old testament don't apply any more but you continue to ignore the truth. Why would anyone expect a different response from you if Eco explained this to you?
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I thought it was obvious, but I see I have to spell it out. It explains why Muslims treat the words of the later prophet, Mohamed, with more importance to the words of the earlier Prophet Jesus. Just as while Christians treat Moses as an important prophet, his teachings are superseded by those of Jesus
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A Person wrote:I thought it was obvious, but I see I have to spell it out. It explains why Muslims treat the words of the later prophet, Mohamed, with more importance to the words of the earlier Prophet Jesus. Just as while Christians treat Moses as an important prophet, his teachings are superseded by those of Jesus


Jesus was Prophet, Priest, King, Messiah and GOD. Your biggest mistake is that you think of him as only a prophet. He was much more than that. Mohammad was a false prophet.
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I am not describing what I think about Jesus. I am talking about how Muslims regard Jesus.

Do try to keep up.
December 28th, 2009, 10:21 pm
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A Person wrote:
ecofox wrote:If they love him why don't they obey him?

Why don't you obey the Mosaic Law and the teaching of Moses?

Heck, Some Christians don't obey Jesus' teachings either. They choose to let Paul run the show, when his doctrine contradicts Jesus.
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A Person wrote:I am not describing what I think about Jesus. I am talking about how Muslims regard Jesus.

Do try to keep up.

As always, reading comprehension takes a back seat to fundamentalist bias.
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SouthernFriedInfidel wrote:
A Person wrote:I am not describing what I think about Jesus. I am talking about how Muslims regard Jesus.

Do try to keep up.

As always, reading comprehension takes a back seat to fundamentalist bias.


We both have no idea what your talking about.
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