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Iraqis Shocked as Atheism Creeps in

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Published on October 12th, 2009, 10:25 pm
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Iraqis Shocked as Atheism Creeps in

BAGHDAD – Although their number remains insignificant and most of them hid their identity, the fact that some people are leaving Islam and becoming atheists is a troubling news in conservative Iraq.
“I was surprised a couple of weeks ago when my son told me that his colleague at college told him that his father had become an atheist,” Sheik Abdul-Rassoul al-Rabia’a, a religion teacher at Baghdad University, told IslamOnline.net.

Not only did the father abandon his Muslim faith, he wanted his son to follow in his footsteps.

“I suggested to my son bringing his friend home and talked with him that despite his father’s thinking, he should continue to follow his Muslim heart and never deny his God,” al-Rabia’a said.

Linking that to the non-stop violence plaguing the country since the 2003 US invasion, some Iraqis are becoming atheists.

Most of them have had personal incidents involving either themselves or close relatives.

“Iraq is a land without God or any other kind of major protective superior form,” claims one atheist who declined to be named fearing reprisal.

“We have been forgotten and it is better to think only rationally than emotionally. I left behind my old beliefs because it is the only way to protect my children from any harm that God isn’t being able to do.”

Yasser (not his real name) is grouping up with others who have also renounced their faiths.

“When we first decided to organise ourselves, we were only eight people,” he told IOL.

“And after seven months, our number has reached to 34 but many other groups are being formed countrywide according to my contacts in northern and southern Iraq.

“We believe that today in Iraq, there are at least 220 atheists linked to the groups nationwide.”

Caro (not his real name), 41, also claims their numbers are on the rise.

“Each day we are having more followers and maybe one day we will be able to have our own centre where we will be able to discuss our ideas and nature creation.”

Iraqis say atheism is just so alien to conservative Iraq.

“If a westerner told me that he doesn’t believe in God, I would keep my mouth shut and never discuss it with him,” says Abdul-Rassoul al-Rabia’a.

“But when I hear that a born Muslim adopted atheism, I feel strong enough to help him find the true path.”

He believes the trend is becoming common in many regions in Iraq.

“No one is guiltier than the Americans who brought such ideas to Iraqis.”

Sara Waleed, 36, religion teacher at a primary school in Baghdad, says sometimes children ask her about atheism and say they heard the word from someone in the family who had become an atheist.

“Our kids today are different from before. They are aware of everything and are growing fast,” she told IOL.

“When I hear this I try to give a lesson that reinforces Islam so that the kids would not forget their origin.”

Yasser recognizes that what he and his friends are doing is alien to the conservative Iraqi society.

“It might be stranger for many people that a man who was raised in a very close Muslim tradition goes against his family and personal beliefs and create a group that doesn’t believe in a major creator.”

He blamed this on the war and its repercussions.

“Violence, religious differences, deaths, hunger, displacement and many other issues made me ask myself where God is,” he said


A few more people who won't fly planes into buildings
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October 13th, 2009, 7:02 am
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Some interesting stuff here. I know that Muslims, like Christians, have this mythical notion that religion is needed before someone can "act morally." This of course ignores that fact that nearly all terrorists for the past 50 years have been deeply religious. So the religion/morality connection isn't really valid. But carrying on...

the article wrote:“We believe that today in Iraq, there are at least 220 atheists linked to the groups nationwide.”

It's almost like America's Red Scare days. "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Baghdad Freethought Society?"
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“If a westerner told me that he doesn’t believe in God, I would keep my mouth shut and never discuss it with him,” says Abdul-Rassoul al-Rabia’a.

“But when I hear that a born Muslim adopted atheism, I feel strong enough to help him find the true path.”

Of course. Don't even stop to ask whether your atheist neighbor is able to act in accordance with societal norms or within the limits of the secular laws. Just do everything you can to make sure he believes the same fairy tales you do.
He believes the trend is becoming common in many regions in Iraq.

“No one is guiltier than the Americans who brought such ideas to Iraqis.”

Might this business of abandoning a hypocritical and harmful religion be a matter of people being shocked out of their beliefs by seeing the horrors that Shiites and Sunnis visit on each other have ANYTHING to do with this? Certainly not... it could only happen because of foreigners.
October 13th, 2009, 7:56 am
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Atheism isn't the only taboo that's creeping out in the aftermath of mindless sectarian violence.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091013/wl_nm/us_iraq_society_1
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October 13th, 2009, 8:22 am
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OMG!

OMG!

We can take religion-based murder and electricity only being on for a couple of hours every day for years on end... but atheism and women driving CARS?!!?11!1one!!1!??

Bring back Saddam! We can't have THAT!!!!!!111!1!!1!
October 13th, 2009, 9:42 am
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Life under dictators isn't neccesarily bad in all areas. Iran under the Shah and Iraq under Saddam were in many ways much freer than under the theocracies, especially for women.

And Mussolini made the trains run on time :)
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October 13th, 2009, 11:07 am
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No one from Iraq was involved in September 11 attacks. They were mostly Saudi Arabian.

Small point but I am tired of people relating the Iraq war to 9/11. They're unrelated (apart from the intense nationalism generated by 9/11 that allowed it to happen in the first place).
October 13th, 2009, 12:04 pm
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Meee wrote:No one from Iraq was involved in September 11 attacks. They were mostly Saudi Arabian.

Small point but I am tired of people relating the Iraq war to 9/11. They're unrelated (apart from the intense nationalism generated by 9/11 that allowed it to happen in the first place).

I don't think AP's post was meant to link Iraq to 9/11. Rather, it seems to me that his comment is aimed at Muslim fundamentalism -- which WAS linked to 9/11.
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Meee wrote:No one from Iraq was involved in September 11 attacks. They were mostly Saudi Arabian


That was correct. Now the war in Iraq has attracted al Q'aida there. Of course anyone amenable to seeing the issues with their religion was unlikely to indulge in any kind of terrorism in the first place.

When I said "A few more people who won't fly planes into buildings" I was referring to religious fundamentalism in general, not to Iraqi or even Muslim fundamentalism in particular. As someone who grew up with the Catholic IRA bombings in England (and the 'Loyalist' protestant equivalents) I am well aware that religious extremism is not restricted to any particular creed.
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A Person wrote:
When I said "A few more people who won't fly planes into buildings" I was referring to religious fundamentalism in general, not to Iraqi or even Muslim fundamentalism in particular. As someone who grew up with the Catholic IRA bombings in England (and the 'Loyalist' protestant equivalents) I am well aware that religious extremism is not restricted to any particular creed.



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