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Banning the Burqa and the veil.

by Liv | Published on April 30th, 2010, 11:35 am | News
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Something we've been following in our house lately is the Belgians' and the French efforts to ban the burqa or the veil. There argument is it denies a woman her humanity, her rights as a human being. Today, the Belgian law made it through and passed one part of Parliament awaiting approval from upper parliament.

Shall be punished by a fine of five euro and twenty-five dollars and to imprisonment for one day to seven days or one of these penalties, who, unless otherwise provided by law, occur in places publicly available face hidden or concealed in whole or in part, in such a way that they are not identifiable, "

Seront punis d’une amende de quinze euros à vingt-cinq euros et d’un emprisonnement d’un jour à sept jours ou d’une de ces peines seulement, ceux qui, sauf dispositions légales contraires, se présentent dans les lieux accessibles au public le visage masqué ou dissimulé en tout ou en partie, de manière telle qu’ils ne soient pas identifiables cite


We've had a lot of discussions here in our own house over the burqa. For instance, while I agree that this is the right thing to do, one must wonder why here in "Christian America" we didn't ban it first? Is it because we're too scared of losing our religious symbolisms (cross, etc.) Isn't that somewhat counter-intuitive to the religion that the majority of Americans subscribe to. Our own greed prevented us for standing up for others rights?

Also I'm really wondering (and hoping there isn't) retaliation for this law against the nations of France and Belgium.

Lastly it makes me wonder about Christian missionaries who go to Islamic countries and must covertly pretend to be "homeschoolers" and/or adhere to wearing a burqa. Isn't that sort of "pretending" to be another religion just to convert others? Seems almost like being anti-proud, or guerrilla religious warfare? Shan suggest it's more of a cultural symbol than religious. I think the burqa, religion, and culture in many countries are very intertwined.

Lastly, I'm guessing many of the women who wear burqas won't want to not wear one based on their own beliefs no matter what.

So I guess here's my question. I wonder if the American populous would support a ban on the burqa if it didn't mean a ban on Christian symbols? Then what if it did? Things that make you go hmmmmm!!!!!!!!
 
 
Ban them in the U.K too, especially after this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... olice.html
May 1st, 2010, 12:53 pm
smiler125
 
Location: Bristol, England
How do you distinguish a Burqa from someone wearing a hoody and wraparound sunglasses?

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Or winter wear?

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Should we arrest this suspicious character?

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May 1st, 2010, 3:35 pm
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A Person
 
Location: Slightly west of the Great White North
I'm quite certain we're a rational enough society to determine the difference between a toboggan and a burqa, and given enough thought we can construct a legal document to do the same.
May 1st, 2010, 4:19 pm
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Liv
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Location: Greensboro, NC
That makes as much sense as saying we can spot illegal immigrants by the way they look.

The ONLY difference is the motive of the wearer. One is practical, the other is religious
May 1st, 2010, 4:25 pm
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One is practical choice the other is religious persecution of women....
Tom
May 1st, 2010, 5:18 pm
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Everyone going through airport security surely must show their face. Anyone know what the rules are on the religious face coverings in airports?
May 1st, 2010, 5:43 pm
smiler125
 
Location: Bristol, England
I believe the are required to show their faces and they go through the same security checks as everyone else. They certainly should not be exempt from that. I also think they should be required to show their faces to police on demand.

The question is whether all people should be required to show all their faces at all times in public or whether a particular type of religious dress should be banned.

I don't agree with that. The Belgian law is similar to the one in Arizona in that it is broadly targeted at a particular group of immigrants to harass and intimidate them. In the southern states the immigrants are mostly Latino, in Europe they are Muslims.
May 1st, 2010, 6:33 pm
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The threats have begun:

May 5th, 2010, 5:55 pm
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Liv
I show you something fantastic and you find fault.
 
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