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Paper indicates Iran working on nuclear weapons

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Now this would surprise hardly anyone, that Iran is seeking to develop nuclear weapons. But the international community is just starting the process (it seems) of puzzling out how to deal with the situation.

To be honest, I think that the problem at this stage is a lot more sticky than it would have been had American never invaded Iraq. If America takes a leading role involving threatening military force against Iraq now, the problems that would follow are easy to anticipate:

1) America will be accused of trying to take over yet another Islamic country... invading Iran would make a contiguous zone of American invasions from India to Turkey. Imagine how much fun Muslim extremists would have with that!

2) Our overstretched military would be overwhelmed, trying to extend some level of control over the area we already are having trouble with PLUS Iran added in.

3) We all know how such a move would work on the government budget. 'Nuff said.

So we all know, as do the Iranians, how likely our military involvement would be there. So Iran knows that America can't pose a credible threat to them as things stand now. Sure, we can join the world in imposing sanctions on them. But that would result in severe harm to our economy, should such a huge source of oil go off-line.

So how can the world actually respond to this development, if it is corroborated? We've been using harsh language for several years now, and it really doesn't appear to have worked. And history shows that you can't reason with nuts anyway.

I just wonder whether the EU will end up taking an active part in all of this. They may be the only party in 6the world capable of averting a nuclear disaster in the Middle East.
December 14th, 2009, 1:19 pm   Share
 
The only answer is to ignore them. Just let em build them. It's going to happen one way or another. In fact, maybe we should help them? It's a little 90210ish, but:

If you know they will get over the wall, and into that pool, dont you think you should teach those kids how to swim!?
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Maybe we could eliminate the threat, by being their friend, their mentors?
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December 14th, 2009, 3:03 pm
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Liv wrote:The only answer is to ignore them. Just let em build them. It's going to happen one way or another.

Actually, this has been an issue for as long as nuclear weapons have existed. Einstein saw the problem while the Manhattan Project was doing its work, as did many others.

And if Iran does develop a nuke, and wipes Israel off the map? You know they'll do everything they can to try it. How would the world react to that? Myself, I'd prefer not to find out. So I'd be all for doing something to prevent it. Only, as I said before -- the USA simply can't use anything more than harsh language. The world needs a true police force.
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How do we know they'll fire it at Israel? I'll admit my stupidity here.... but doesn't Israel already have nukes? Clearly they know that, and clearly they understand what happens when you fire a nuke, and they fire a nuke.... then both are gone, and no one wins.... Anyone remember "War Games"? Isn't this exactly what America and Russia had during the cold war? Which eventually led to nothing happening???

I mean... furthermore even if they got a nuke off, and destroyed Israel, they know they U.S. would unload on them... There would be no more Iran....

The only possible strategy would be to fire on us first.... which... errr.... isn't likely to happen since.... errr... they're there... and well we're here.... and there.... so geographically speaking the chance are slim, any of that is going to work....

So what are they aiming for? Maybe just to be taken serious in the world arena? More power.... but fire a nuke...? Really? You think?
December 14th, 2009, 6:19 pm
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Liv wrote:How do we know they'll fire it at Israel? I'll admit my stupidity here.... but doesn't Israel already have nukes?

What else they gonna use nukes for? Making curious glass sculptures in the desert? Now sure Israel has nukes of some sort, but they refuse to admit it. Probably because they know that doing so would force America to impose sanctions on it, and invite all Arab countries to attack as one. And they simply could not withstand that combination.

And yes, I think that the fanatics in Teheran would use a nuke on Israel the minute they were sure they could, because they have gawd on their side.
Clearly they know that, and clearly they understand what happens when you fire a nuke, and they fire a nuke.... then both are gone, and no one wins.... Anyone remember "War Games"? Isn't this exactly what America and Russia had during the cold war? Which eventually led to nothing happening???

Well,, the Russians and Americans had virtually nothing happen (at least in terms of nuclear war) because of "mutually assured destruction." So long as Iran stays on the good side of Russia or China (relatively speaking), they think they might get away with dropping one nuke on, say, Tel Aviv, though I sort of doubt even China would support them after something like that.
So what are they aiming for? Maybe just to be taken serious in the world arena? More power.... but fire a nuke...? Really? You think?

When you're dealing with a whole caste of religious fanatics with absolute political power, you can be assured of one thing: They have little use for real reality. Don't count on them being much interested in their historic legacy as opposed to the pleasure of making things go BANG!
December 15th, 2009, 8:01 am
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But are we judging them as super religious fanatics, because we're from the American, even Christian, perspective.... We're assuming they take their religious much more serious than we do in this country. I mean BHL believes his stuff, but if he could nuke an abortion clinic... I don't think he would... Maybe we're doing as we often do with cave man, or ancestral humans.... we assume they're less intelligent, when they themselves are just like us, and despite their beliefs, they wouldn't go as far as nukeing because they believe fantasy over fact?
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