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Re: Oz, the Great and Powerful

2013-03-17T15:42:09+00:00

The Wiz sucked.

Statistics: Posted by Liv — Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:42 pm

Re: Oz, the Great and Powerful

2013-03-17T15:41:47+00:00

Oh no, Return to Oz was EPIC.... it was creative, well-thought, and DARK....

LOVED RETURN TO OZ!!!!

Statistics: Posted by Liv — Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:41 pm

Re: Oz, the Great and Powerful

2013-03-17T15:03:26+00:00

Liv wrote:
Actually I thought Cars 2 wasn't nearly as bad as this.

Ah. Well that says much, doesn't it? Both Cars films had major flaws, and are easily the weakest efforts to come out of Pixar so far. The first one was, I believe, a "Farewell F-U" to Disney while they were breaking away from their initial contractual obligation, while Eisner was busy screwing the company all to hell. The fact that they returned to the franchise with such a pitiful effort frankly puzzles me, but that's beside the point, obviously.

Thinking back to this movie, about a day now after first seeing it, I still think it's a very good film. The development for the central characters is the key, I think. It's very believable, within the context of the setting. The use of magic in the story seemed mostly consistent... and the introduction of the China People was a big plus. I would not go so far as to say it was an "equal" of the original film. But I do say it's FAR superior to all the other efforts to add to or re-make the series over the years, like "Return to Oz" or (heaven forbid) "The Wiz."

Sadly, the writers WERE in fact working in the dark regarding Baum's thoughts. I do think, however, that they made a VERY good work that fits well with the classic. It is both a homage to the original and a pretty cool film in its own right.

Statistics: Posted by SouthernFriedInfidel — Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:03 pm

Re: Oz, the Great and Powerful

2013-03-17T14:19:13+00:00

Actually I thought Cars 2 wasn't nearly as bad as this.

Statistics: Posted by Liv — Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:19 pm

Re: Oz, the Great and Powerful

2013-03-17T12:22:07+00:00

Liv wrote:
You wouldn't be a fan of Disney would you?

Hmmmmm.....

I'm mostly a fan of quality entertainment. When Disney creates a POS movie (say... "Cars 2") I have no problem saying it's crap. This isn't crap.

Statistics: Posted by SouthernFriedInfidel — Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:22 pm

Re: Oz, the Great and Powerful

2013-03-17T00:40:09+00:00

You wouldn't be a fan of Disney would you?

Hmmmmm.....

Statistics: Posted by Liv — Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:40 am

Re: Oz, the Great and Powerful

2013-03-17T00:35:04+00:00

Actually, I also disagree about the writing. Yes, there were a couple of rough points, but overall, I liked the script.

Statistics: Posted by SouthernFriedInfidel — Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:35 am

Re: Oz, the Great and Powerful

2013-03-17T00:28:27+00:00

As you know, I'm not a fan of McDisney as is.... but enough with the fireworks.

Even if they kept the script, an attempt to justify the original, they missed the whole concept of "the turn", the idea that you save surprises to the end.

I really haven't hated a movie this bad in a long time.

Oh, watched one today called "The Words" in Blockbuster's kiosk for $1.... HIGHLY RECOMMEND it:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1840417/

Both the writers for Oz, Kapner and Lindsay-Abaire seem to (according to IDMB) lack creds. Likely that's the problem. I'm sure Disney tossed enough money at the production, but the script was horrible. Whether it was just "rushed" or just poor writing, I can't say. But darn you Disney.

Statistics: Posted by Liv — Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:28 am

Re: Oz, the Great and Powerful

2013-03-16T22:17:34+00:00

Hm. Seems we have a basic disagreement here. The fireworks, I thought, fit in reasonably well with the rest of the plot. I had a few objections to the film, but that wasn't one.

Statistics: Posted by SouthernFriedInfidel — Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:17 pm

Re: Oz, the Great and Powerful

2013-03-16T21:30:48+00:00

We watched it a couple days and thought it was absolutely horrible.

Worst writing I've ever seen, with absolutely no attempt to be original. Worst, the acting from actors who I always thought were better than this, performed horribly.

Baum is rolling over in his grave at this attempt.

I'm a huge fan of the masterpiece of Oz, and can only say I was disturbed that Disney got their hands on this material then chose to butcher it to pieces.

Does every Disney movie have to have fireworks in it for their Blu-Rays? Someone kill me please!

Statistics: Posted by Liv — Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:30 pm